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Date: 23.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: eft ?

hi
im new to the forum and on reading the posts realised that there seems to be very little mention of alternative therapies?
i manage my ra with a whole foods diet,zero alchohol,4 ibuprofen a day( 2 in the morning and two at night) and with a spiritual approach to life.
i also practice something called eft and find it really useful.
its good for the soul and relieves stress but has other effects too all of which im sure you will find to your benefit.
give it a go even if you think its silly.
bet you it works!!!!!
wayne.
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: BLOGGER

Subject: Re: eft ?

Gloo-cosamin
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: Vicki

Subject: Re: eft ?

I've tried accupuncture, which worked to a certain degree......but not fantastically brilliant!?
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: val h

Subject: Re: eft ?

we all eat well and exercise as best we can .what works 4 1 person wont 4 another. we all have to find what works 4 us and help each other with tips we try them and c if they any good 4 us individually. hope what u said helps some :-)when u r bad u try anything to get rid of pain:-( (blogger you pic gets every where)
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: Jill

Subject: Re: eft ?

EFT = Everything Frigging 2 Tight ...LOLOL

Hey WaynO, JillO ere...what EFT infact mean..Elucidate if u can...
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: Jill

Subject: Re: eft ?

val do u have a Pic of our only Male Member ? = Bloggsy? if yes, let me have an eyeball...LOL might help my joints today lolol
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: Blogger

Subject: Re: eft ?

:-) here again lololololo
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: Blogs fan

Subject: Re: eft ?

Very handsome Blogs, rather on the slim side tho Lol
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: Bloggs fan

Subject: Re: eft ?

Heres a Pic of me ...

( @ @ ) LOL
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

eft stands for Emotional Freedom Techniques.
if you would of bothered putting it into google you may of found out a little more.
im staggered that people on here seem to be taking this as a joke?
as a new poster on here i must say that im appauled at this attitude but not surprised,how can you not be interested?
my god im trying to help you people!?!?!
oh and thanks for the warm welcome to the board
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: Blogger

Subject: Re: eft ?

Well Hello Wayno
How long have you had RA?
Your age?
Occupation
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: Literacy Consultant

Subject: Re: eft ?

I am appalled also that you are selling on this forum
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: Linda

Subject: Re: eft ?

spiritual approach - 4 ibuprofen? mmm
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

hi
first onset was 7 years ago at age 27 im now 33, im a bricklayer by trade and still make myself lay bricks as often as i can.
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

im not selling anything?
unless you want a housebuilding or specialist workwear apparel?
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: Jill

Subject: Re: eft ?

Wayno with that diabolical stinking attitude, and crap comment u left today, jsut becos I asked YOU what it meant, it seems to me that EFT hasnt helped u much!!! and 4 the record Wayno Y the fook wld I google it, when YOU mentioned it on here,!! The least you cld do was explain yourself instead of sounding like a bliddy Geek!!...We get so many jerks on here claiming this and that, and cures for R.A... seemd u were in the same boat as they are!...now seeing as you were rude and apillock, I wont talk to YOU again!!
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

what does that mean then linda?
it must mean that you would like to hear more?
one thing i have learnt from my seven years of agony is that negativity is a great breeding ground for pain and immobility.
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

good jill because unfortunatly you have nothing positive to add to any discussion and i dont care for you crude language.
besides the fact that i cant read the text that you have scrawled?
im not claiming anything is a cure, far from it!
we must all be open to all things that alleviate suffering.
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: Jill

Subject: Re: eft ?

I take Zomporph100 twice a day! Methtrexate, Enbrel injections, Ormorph as and when, Arcoxia 120, folic acid, Co codamol. Diazapam....this isnt an experiment for me, this is now part of my life... Ibubrofen dont kick it!! guess anyone that lives on just Ibubrofen cant be that bad, and shouldnt compare others pain to their Limited pain(assuming they even get that!!)...I eat healthy foods, live an honest life, and take Toxic bliddy meds to keep me from being hospitalised!...I cant stand Bigots that come in here, assume we dont do a thing about our conditions, assume we havnt looked at alternatives, and Know nothing about how this illness has affected us! It affects some people more than others...the people with the condition chronically cant just live on Frigging Ibubrofen!!! Ibubrofen is just an anti inflamatory, with a little bit of parcetamol in the tablet LOLOL...I eat those 4 breakfast!!! Most of us in Here WAYNO r in chronic pain and on Toxic Meds... Yu r lucky that U arnt! and dont tell me its due to EFT! thats ridiculous, jsut like the comment u left!!! guess your selling a book of sorts, we get all kinds of Nuts in here, and U wont be taken seriously!!!Not with that lousy attitude!!
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: JILL

Subject: Re: eft ?

Then if u beleive that you r open to alleviate anyone suffering, y dont U leave this forum then!!!! Enufff said Mr EFT!! lolol Lmaoooooooo do yourself a favour a nd go EFT yourself!!!!U arnt in anyway Spiritual...u come in here attacking people...who the fook do u think U r!? another saddo in my book, and beleive me, when the gals come out to play, No one will talk to u!!!!
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

i fully appreciate your very serious condition jill and im very sorry that you are suffering so terribly badly.
however... i too was on Methtrexate, Enbrel injections, Ormorph amongst others and guess what ? the day they went in the bin was the best day ive had for a long time.
im sorry but these terrible toxic money making drugs are so foul im really not surprised that anyone would feel ill taking them.
there is no such word as cant for a start and thats how i live my life.
your obviously very reliant and a little bitter from the tone of your message ?
your very close minded for someone with such a very limted amount of treatment options, how can you say that eft is ridiculous when you dontappear to of tried to unlock or utilise its benefits.
oh yeah sure its just quackery and jill wouldnt need that!!! wouldnt she?
eft is primaily about core emotional issues that exist in our lives,we all have them no matter what you think.
secret is to adress them and free your mind from the subconcious stress that they create.
yeah jill it wont work for you i can tell you that with some certainty but some horses do drink when lead to water.
just let them drink .
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

wow should i be bothered that no one wants to talk to me on here?
sounds like you need a little shaking up to help you adjust your diabolical and self pitying attitude.
i can tell you now that you give me so much hope for my own future and i find these exchanges a massive incetive to carry on helping myself to all lifes knowledge which may benefit me in any way, however small.
thank you jil.
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: Team 1 DLA Officer

Subject: Re: eft ?

Well Waynko we could save some money with your plan what is it?
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: Jill

Subject: Re: eft ?

YAWN!!! bye Wayno...or is that WingeO....Now as far as Im concerend, Ive Never exchanced a message with u, U never existed!!Wot a bore u r!!
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: Nutmagnet

Subject: Re: eft ?

he sounds like a Loooony !
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

i dont have a plan, i have a lifestyle.
i eat a wholefoods diet consisting of anything and everything green and organic,fresh organic meat and lots and lots of organic fruit.
i eat no sugar ,grain,bread,cake,chocolate or anything else that has been in a bag ,tin or plastic pot.
its time to get serious guys the chemicals on and in processed foods are doing you tremendous harm.
you NEED to give up processed food and microwaved food now.
and i drink water.filtered of course.
now i can hear you all screaming down your monitors thinking im mad but whos the one moving around and proactivly managing their pain?
am i so mad?
we need to assess the impact these chemicals are having on us,just because were told its safe to eat these things dont mean its safe at all.
safe never made money!
i also have a routine, i wake every morning at 6.30 and enjoy 30 minutes of spiritual time where i meditate,i consider my actions and my obsticles for the day and look at them in a positive way.
its called introspection and it allows me to search for a way forward before i get bogged down with the emotional problems that get in the way of life.i also incorperate eft into this routine and adresss my pain and anger amongst other things before these problems arise.
2 ibuprofen taken with water.lol
i then drag myself to the kitchen where i prepare fresh cooked tomatoes,grilled fish/kippers and as a treat sometimes bacon with three poached eggs.
you can imagine the rest of the day.
i find that i have to set myself goals and aspirations and make sure they happen.
life is a massive challenge but i have found that having something to get excited about really helps with the pain.
im lucky that im in a position where i live my life the way i want to live it. i dont do a 9 to five and i would urge anyone who does to give it up.
do the things in life that make you happy!
i urge you all to find mind body and soul alignment and ask yourself what makes you happy.
when you know what truly makes you happy only then can you seek it out and truly be happy.
my life isnt over and im damned if anything is going to stop me doing the things i want to do in life.
try and remember this ...... one dreamed of becoming somebody, another remained awake and became.
i know im going on and im sorry for jill and the others of you out there who are disabled, i may not be able to have as much of an effect for you poor people but maybe if one newbi comes on here at an early stage of their disease and is helped or their quality of life is prolonged by anything that has been posted then thats a good thing.
sorry if previous posts have offended but hey only by strong debate is change possible.
im not here to shove it down peoples throats but some people do get so defensive and dismissive at the mere mention of anything other than a doc has told them.
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: Blogger

Subject: Re: eft ?

Who pays for it sounds lovely
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

i do.
ive paid for it twice as the work i did as a bricklayers labourer when i was younger laid the foundations for the damage to my bones.
i have a housebuilding company and a work wear company that do ok.
im not in private health care and try to see my doctor as little as poss.
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: Blogger

Subject: Re: eft ?

Wayno

There are different levels of RA you seem to be only mildly affected.

I was at hospital last week and the person in front of me was in a wheelchair with numerous deformaties caused by this awful disease.

I hear what you say re the healthy living lifestyle. I have had it 30+ years and worked at keeping fit and listening to my body. For some people that is not possible for you and I it works. What about Juvenile RA did you have that before you was a bricky?

Someone in my family succombed to this disease in their 40's and is no longer with us.
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: Prof

Subject: Re: eft ?

Sounds like you have wear and tear arthritis 'Osto' not RA which is brought about by hard work not Immune disease
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

i believe the graft and drinking to huge excess set the ra off but my family on both sides have a lot of ra and my father is a cripple due to having Ankylosing Spondylitis.
i was young and strong and liked a drink so it couldnt happen to me!!!! whoops.
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: WeeWeeArtist

Subject: Re: eft ?

Badger Ale cures it
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: Rodney

Subject: Re: eft ?

I am too strong for light work thats how I got my RA
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

hi blogger
really sorry to hear about your fallen,40's is just crazy!!
im pleased to hear that you benefit from having a healthy lifestyle and excercise regime.
brilliant!!!!
in the early days i was bed ridden for long periods and gave up work and excercise,this is when most of my deformaties arose .
i know people arnt going to jump from their beds because i came on here and tried to add eft to peoples daily routine but i did come on here to talk to sane people like you who realise that action is better than inactivity with this disease, no matter how painful moving around is.
as i said earlier i too suffer severe deformaties in my hands and feet knees,lower back and neck,infact my hands are shocking and look awful.
some people have a problem with it and stare or comment even but i dont have a problem with it, how can i have a problem with it? its me after all.
this is where eft helps me,it gives me a very balanced view of the way i am and helps with my pain.
it works wonderfully well for my jaw pain and can be the difference between eating and going hungry.
i hope this illustrates how depression anxiety fear and tension can sometimes be a cause for pain when its not actually all the fault of the RA
sometimes we do these things to ourselves sub conciously ,they are just reactions to how we feel emotionally!
after all auto immune diseases are a failure of mind and body to communicate, if we are better able to control our minds sometimes the body follows.
so i suppose to summarise...... i was really in a bad way with my ra but have managed to get myself into a better condition through hard work,diet and leading a good satisfying spiritual life.
i was hoping to find a rich source of helpful posts to add to my own experiences but i fear i may of failed?
i hope not and would love to start over with some people on this forum as negativity is a sure fire way to pain which ever way you look at it.
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

funny you should say this as drinking did ease the pain?
not only while drunk but next day too.
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Date: 23.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

funny you should say that too rod !
going from a very healthy 6'4 and 18 stones of seriously gym fit to a 13 stone bag of twisted broken parts was a particuarly mentally damaging experience.
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Date: 24.06.2009
From: Della

Subject: Re: eft ?

I have heard of eft it is an alternative medicine suppose to help lots of things weight loss, depression obsession phobias etc and also wiv panic attacks which is why i have heard about it someone told me and i looked it up. Basically what it is is u tap on the Chinese Meridian Points a bit like accupuncture but u tap instead of the needles and say affirmations. Now it would be great if it did work and im sure it does for lots of ppl but the agaony i have been in these last 8 weeks i dont think it would have been enough for me and in lots of peoples cases like me who have it in the hands how can u tap??
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Date: 24.06.2009
From: Jill

Subject: Re: eft ?

My Origional Question to the Oh So Nice Mr Wayno all of a sudden, I asked the same question to Wayno, just like others on here, and He had a go at me for not bothering to Google it!! ffs, if I gooogled everything people told me to goole I would be Goooogleing all frigging day!!! Wayno was rude, but now he has explained his regime EFT, which is all I asked for in the first place, I would NOT have gave him my wrath!! still he deserved it at the time... What u have to understand Wayno, is u shld have had the Paitence to get across what U mentioned on here, this is a Support group after all, and people ask others questions all the time!!...thats Y I got annoyed with u, becos U were Rude!!

I am Not an argumentative type, un less I feel someeone is takin g the Pee out of me...

Btw u Organic fooods are expensive...I cant work, and cant afford Organic foods as such, have a family of 7 here.... I have a healthly eeating habit, and I am very happy with my lot thankyou very much...I have a lovely family that keep me going and very close friends....

Next time maybe u can learn about treating people with Respect Wayno... then maybe u can explain the EFT to others ina dignified way, for example, if u were out and told someone u saw struggling about EFT, and the person replied, what is eft...u wouldnt shout at them and say GO GOOGLE IT, or GO TO THE LIBRARY!! thats what u did to me.... thats waht made me think u were a fake, we get many on this forum.... Nice attitude goes a long way in here!!!
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Date: 24.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

jill ,you are one of the most caustic and foul people ive ever had the misfortune to of come across.
the way you wriggle and squirm around looking for other peoples endorsements of your posts make me feel ill and really very sorry for your negative backward way of thinking.
im not surprised at all that your ill!!!
it obviously comes with the rest of the failures and shortcomings that have so far punctuated your neaningless and negative existance.
lets just go back and look at what happened with my post ,shall we?
i was a new poster on here and came to the forum full of hope and expectation of learning new ways to make mine and other peopels lives better.
yes i had the outrageous idea that a seemingly little known FREE and self administered therapy could benefit some people on here.
one of my reasons for posting was the apparent lack of postsabout alternative and other more mainstream therapies?
on looking at the board i could see that lots of people were in a bad way and lots of moaning seemed to be the order of the day?
also one of the predominant topics was the use of toxic and highly damaging medications.
i could seealmost no information on the things i had come to the forum for,things like alternative therapies,beneficial foods,self help,positive thinking,herbal remedies,keeping diaries to identify where your problems arise from and the problem foods that this would show up.
why is there nothing on this board about nutrition?
why is there nothing on this board about vitamins and minerals and the correct way of using combinations of supplimentation?
why is there nothing about excercise?
why is there nothing about metabolic typing and using the correct diet for your metabolic type?
why is there nothing about spirituality?
why is there nothing about meditation?
why is there nothing about the benefits of stretching and incorperating swiss ball excercises into your daily routine?
im staggered that this board has become so stale and bereft of information !!!
its obvious to me that people like you have stifled discussion on this board to the point of reducing it to a useless talking shop.
you dont talk about the things that are difficult in life like diet and excercise because you dont practice them in your lives ,you push them aside in the usual idle way that you approach you condition.
you should be ashamed that you have taken this valuable resource away from genuine people so you can use it as your own pathetic emotional crutch.
SHAME ON YOU!!!!
all i tried to do was introduce something mew, no wonder i met with a wall of disaproval!
i really didnt expect to have to tell you what eft was, i thought id be inundated with post about the benefits it had bought to peoples lives?
jill i have given you eft in return i have recieved greif and derision.
sure i should of filled you in as to what eft is but hey why not google it?
if i gave you an apple should i also explain how to eat it?
i pity youridle disinterseted dismissive way of thinking and wish you all the best with the challenges that you are clearly going to face with your conditions.
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Date: 24.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

hi della
thanks for your balanced comments.
the way eft works for me is both in a physical and mental way.
it does relieve my pain, not all the time i grant you but i do find that it depends on my mood and the things i have on my mind.
it also helps clear my mind of obstructive and damaging sentiments which can have a beneficial effect for tomorrow and therefore when tomorrow comes i am able to manage my pain more effectivly.
doing nothing is never an option with these conditions.
i appreciate the problems with tapping but you only need to lightly touch the points and dont need to hammer away.
i suppose this could also be a catalyst for getting people movin even if only in a small way.
people,we have got to get moving!!!!we have got to pump the body and get blood moving around our systems. it dosnt have to mean heavy excercise but anything you can comfortably do.
im sorry you have been in pain della but did you let the pain go on for eight weeks until it went away?
maybe you could of defeated your pain earlier with this simple technique?
keep chipping away at your pain it may not run as deeply as you think.
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Date: 24.06.2009
From: val h

Subject: Re: eft ?

we go to other sights 4 the diet and exercise there r lots of them out there dont have a go at jill thought your meditation got rid of your anger we just do not like to be preached to people who have not got this problem often come on here telling people what they should b doing but we r all different and as i said before what works 4 one does not 4 others i 4 one looked up what to eat and what not and have changed diet do exercises to keep muscels (cant spell)strong to help stop deformity as have caught it early .ibuprophen not enough when have flare up and its these which cause deformity so then take meds.we do what we can and help each other try to lighten the load when a bad day is here please use positive energy on here not negative
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Date: 24.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

tell you what then val, why dont we all go looking around on the internet trying to find the same info when it could all be collated and discussed in one forum?
sounds like a great plan!
i dont have any anger in me val? i wouldnt hurt a fly and dont recognise anger in my life or stress?
i understand that you think some of my comments are negative but the message and overwhealming amount of the post is truly as positive as it could get.
sure we can wheel out the old cliches of "what works for one dont work for another" but i can tell you with some certainty that if we all changed the way we lived our lives ,changed our diets eradicated stress and anger and used things like alternative therapies we would all be in a much better state of health, absolutely no doubt.
instead we wheel out chiches to prop ourselfs up with,blame other people or make excuses for not helping ourselfs.
until people start to look at the message im trying to get across all im going to get is people being drawn to the so called negative parts of my messages so they can sieze upon that and add more negativity.
positivity is a dirty word on here? just remember that the things in life that are the hardest to achieve are always the most worthwhile.
thanks for your valued input val.
love and light.
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Date: 24.06.2009
From: Jill

Subject: Re: eft ?

thank you Val for seeing the errors of his nasty ways...thanks for your support.... Hes jsut a know it all....anyway as far as im concerned the git dont exist! enuff said about that jerk!...Im the same Val...Im all for people spreading the help they have found etc...weathers its finding a correct walking stick, or as I mentioned Reflexology etc, I dont talk about Food etc, becos I aint a chef LOL... people will do what they want, who am I to tell them what to eat... I have a daily battle myself, I aint a Preacher, But that Wingo wants to be!....also Val, Like U i try and give off positive energy, ive even been thanked by some of the members 4 helping them, whqt has He done accept cause misery!! any way Val, thankgod for u, dellla, chrisitine, Lynne and angela...oh and Blogggsy

Take care
Jill x
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Date: 24.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

you dont talk about food because you know nothing about it !
strange then how your willing to put something inside your body that you know nothing about?
as for being a preacher!!! i came on here looking for debate and found none ?
sometimes people have to speak up about the things they belive in so the blinkered masses take notice of them,its called education jill its a thing that leads to that very frightening thing they call change.
very little other than tea and sympathy will ever come from this forum unless people speak up in true debate of these issues i and others should be raising.
im not doing it for you jill your a dead loss, a lost cause you might say but other visitors to the forum may want or need help from others when they come in search of facts.
but lets not let the facts get in the way of a good old moaning session,eh
love and light.
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Date: 24.06.2009
From: Jill

Subject: Re: eft ?

STICK your love and light where the sun dont shine asssshole!!!What friggging rock did U crawl out of...go somewhere else that might give a damm about your friggging preaching...your on a crusade.... I dont talk about foood u twat cos im not a chef, u ignorant twit!!! im NOT interested in talking about foood, I came on here to Help others U Tosspot, Not be a goood little boy and Pisssofff and leave me alone!!!! do your crusading, lets c if people listen...I will watch and seee.... and as 4 u Monitoring my condition, Id rather DIE than let on as of now how I am feeling, so go get a life....cos I cant seee that U have one....LOLOL Yu r begining to bore the shite outta me!!!!Yawn Boring sod or what!!!
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Date: 24.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

why do you keep being so personal and going off topic?
and you have such a dirty mouth!
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Date: 24.06.2009
From: Jill is a saint

Subject: Re: eft ?

Yea betcha never had anyone shout back atcha!
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Date: 24.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

its certainly not how i normally communicate or how i would even like to communicate with anyone in the future?
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Date: 24.06.2009
From: Boy Gorge

Subject: Re: eft ?

Or sex
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Date: 24.06.2009
From: Jill THE WINNER

Subject: Re: eft ?

He Probably has sex with his Organic banana...
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Date: 24.06.2009
From: ANON

Subject: Re: eft ?

As a newish member to this forum site i must say i have been grateful for the advice and enjoyed reading posts off other people and gathering info for myself BUT, was hugely dissapointed when i came on to find that the last few posts were not very nice.It was kinda off putting.

Everybody is entitled to a opion and a view on things.
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Date: 24.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

hi anon
im really sorry that the posts have affected your experience of the forum and i sincerely apologise on both myself and jills behalf.
i hope your doing ok and if i can help id be more than happy to.
please dont be put off ,its just me and jill getting to know each other.lol
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Date: 24.06.2009
From: Anon 2

Subject: Re: eft ?

Hi Wayno,
Have you thought of putting your email address on to one of your posts, then any like minded people can share their thoughts with you without any conflict??
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Date: 24.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

hey anon
i dare not now for the fear someone might abuse it.lol
nice thought though.
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Date: 25.06.2009
From: Jill

Subject: Re: eft ?

No Wayno i really ouldnt be bothered...yawn!
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Date: 25.06.2009
From: Jill

Subject: Re: eft ?

Anon Apologies...it gotta outa hand...forum will be a tad quiter today
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Date: 25.06.2009
From: val h

Subject: Re: eft ?

wayno hope u having good day take care. u have plenty to add to this sight so please feel free to add positive posts as we all look to c what we can use that will be of help to us as individuals we dont always agree but then thats life have good day
val
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Date: 25.06.2009
From: Jill

Subject: Re: eft ?

lol wunder where hes gone ?
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Date: 25.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

hi guys
i told you i was out in manchester all day with mt twin bro.
had a super day but im knackered now.
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Date: 25.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

hi guys
i told you i was out in manchester all day with mt twin bro.
had a super day but im knackered now.
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Date: 26.06.2009
From: Jill

Subject: Re: eft ?

thought u were Super man tho
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Date: 26.06.2009
From: Jill

Subject: Re: eft ?

Lol
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Date: 26.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

only in mind im afraid the body is somewhat weaker ......for now!!.
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Date: 26.06.2009
From: Della

Subject: Re: eft ?

well now i am confused sorry but i thought u were trying to get across to us that if we used eft then our bodys would be better yet u say its only in your mind well my mind is telling me i'm still in my 20's but i certainly don't feel it in my body so does your body feel better or not?or is it just all in the mind?
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Date: 26.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

the point was that im superman in my mind as in the way i think......although my body isnt quite up to the same levels of performance due to my condition.
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Date: 26.06.2009
From: val h

Subject: Re: eft ?

hi we have a male model and now super man arnt we the lucky ones u dont walk about with your undies showing or is that all in your head as well???(only kidding wayno)
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Date: 26.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

your being silly now . lol
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Date: 26.06.2009
From: Jill

Subject: Re: eft ?

LOL Val
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Date: 26.06.2009
From: Jill

Subject: Re: eft ?

Wayne is your Twin anything like u? or is he the quite one ? plus does he eat carefully like u do?
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Date: 26.06.2009
From: wayno

Subject: Re: eft ?

yes we are identical but he dosnt have ra.
my plight has made him very aware of the potential of his own situation and he follows the lifestyle with me to the letter and is just as passionate about it as i am ,maybe more so.
hes also been drink free since i gave it up.
topt top top man and i love him to bits.
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Date: 26.06.2009
From: Jill

Subject: Re: eft ?

thats nice Wayne,,,family r everything...
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