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Date: 24.08.2009
From: Dr Mike P

Subject: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

I have diagnosed OA in both of my ankles which means 24hr pain and both ankles almost locked. Some days ago when it was particularly uncomfortable I decided to rub in some oil with the hope that the massage and maybe the oil would make some difference. The oil I had at hand was teatree. I decided to rub it into one ankle only so I would have some idea whether the massage or the oil had any effect. The result was disappointing until the next morning when I found a marked reduction of the pain and a bit more flexibility in both ankles although I had only applied it to one foot. This made me curious and I continued rubbing it on other parts, such as arms that had no pain - the improvement in the ankles has continued.
But:
1.This could be a one off or a short lived result.
2. Continued use of Teatree oil may have toxic effects - though my researches have not uncovered much more than the occasional allergic reaction.
I know that amongst other things Teatree is a powerful anti-inflammatory agent on the skin, perhaps it may have a systemic effect also? Before I start researching this any further I would be interested to hear if anyone else has experienced this? If you intend to try:
1. Do a small skin test first to make sure there is no skin reaction.
2. Use about 8-10 drops only and rub in reasonably well into any non-sensitive part of the skin.
3. Effects will take about 4-12 hours.
4. Please state what type of arthritis you have (OA, RA or PA)
5. Are you aware of any side effects?
I would be interested in your experience.
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Date: 24.08.2009
From: val h :-)

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

this sounds interesting used it in cream form on cat when we had one. might give a try next time start to get bad no harm in trying keep in touch about how u doing
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Date: 25.08.2009
From: Angela

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

I have Sero negative arthritis.
I am aware of tea tree oil and have used it many times directly on my skin as I tend to get these little circle like patches of extremely dry skin, they turn up out of nowhere every now and then.
My dry skin reacts immediately going red then usually within a couple of days of use they go.
I have never tried it on my joints, but will give try and let you know
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Date: 25.08.2009
From: Brenda

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

I have the same as Angela sero negative arthritis, but i will try it on my joints ..
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Date: 25.08.2009
From: Lynne

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

Hi all do you use pure tea tree oil or dilute it with a base oil. I was told by an aromatherapy person not to use pure oils directly onto the skin as it can cause allergic reactions. I do use a couple of drops in the bath every now and then. But have not used it direct

just thought I'd put this out there just in case you have sensitive skin. After all he may be a doctor and be genuine. But we don't know do we. I know I minght be paranoid but we have had a couple of odd bods on here.

Better safe than sorry. Take care x
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Date: 25.08.2009
From: val h :-)

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

hi he did say to try patch test first sounds like might be diluted as massaged it on not sure though
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Date: 25.08.2009
From: jill

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

only used teatreee for spots on my Butt!! roflamo
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Date: 25.08.2009
From: Lynne

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

Jill pmsl at that one lol... Take care xx
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Date: 26.08.2009
From: val h :-)

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

jill that the spot test sorted lol. mind u if still got them not working lol.
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Date: 26.08.2009
From: Kirsty

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

Hahaha, Jill!!

I don't understand how it can help. (not the spots on your bum, but Arther) Or it could be just me being stupid. :D
xxx
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Date: 27.08.2009
From: val h :-)

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

hi was bad last nite oa wrist and hip so tried it and did help short term only used a bit so when woke early this morning in pain tried it again and helped me get back to sleep think it makes it feel warmer and this relaxes muscles could be wrong and will go on trying it as have a wait till c doc again
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Date: 27.08.2009
From: Lynne

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

And when you see doc you'll be making an appointment to see a Rheumy. Nag nag nag xxxx
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Date: 27.08.2009
From: val h :-)

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

yes yes yes will do need something sorting would not like another day like yesterday :-(
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Date: 28.08.2009
From: Lynne

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

Good for you val. We only do it cos we care xxx
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Date: 28.08.2009
From: val h :-)

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

i know its bit silly but not taken any painkillers yet hip not so bad while off it (think its my weight lol) right wrist hurts but while at home managable so will take meds in a bit before going to work will give them time to kick in as wet here today yuk :-( . i can almost hear u asking why not take them well keep waking in nite so want some for then glad its bank hol weekend sure will feel much better after a rest.
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Date: 28.08.2009
From: Lynne

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

Hi val ?? Has your doc not given you enough meds?? Or is it that they wear off and you can't take anymore. If latter the case your meds aren,t working proper and you may need them changing . Write it all down for your rheumy when you take your tabs. If it helps . How long before they wear off etc
hope you feel better soon x
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Date: 28.08.2009
From: val h :-)

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

they wear off that one of reasons going back not strong enough now lol. thanks good advice have made a list of aches and pains so can add to it
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Date: 28.08.2009
From: Lynne

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

Also val the rheumy usually asks you how long are you stiff in the morning. Worth monitering yourself before then. Cos you forget things on your first visit.
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Date: 28.08.2009
From: jill

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

Val I take slowwww release zomorph at night and in nday....but guess w3hat ? forgot to take them today LOL daft or wot! been busy, had to go town with my kids....Plus My Daughter Passed her driving test.....Wicked!!!!! wont have to drive her around anymore hehehahe....mind u, now im blidddy scared tht shes driving on her own!! cant win....
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Date: 28.08.2009
From: Lynne

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

Hi jill think I'm going to ask for them when I visit my rheumy. Don't need pain killers all the tome but when I di they seem like a better bet. Do they make you dizzy?xxxx
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Date: 28.08.2009
From: val h :-)

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

hi great news u do not have to drive her u will be less tired . she will be so much happier now she independent.
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Date: 05.09.2009
From: Dr. Mike P

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

Hi,
I am surprised at the number of comments - I am a 'real doctor' but in psychology!. I am sorry if the posting looked mysterious - it was not meant to be. A possible reason for any beneficial effect of Tea tree on OA would be its anti-inflammatory effect.Inflammation is a major source of pain - I was not expecting the oil to have anything other than a local effect. I have stopped using the neat oil for 8 days and the pain is back at a much lower level - I didn't expect otherwise. I am concerned with possible toxicity with internal organs. I want anyone who tries it to be careful and would be very grateful if they report any findings positive or negative. Depending on other's experiences I may or may not follow this up - it may well be just be a one off curiosity.
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Date: 05.09.2009
From: val h :-)

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

we understand where u r coming from just use it when things bad and do not want to take any more pain meds. but will keep u posted will try anything that might help diet exercise we try the lot anything to have a little controll of this thing that takes over your life
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Date: 06.09.2009
From: jill

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

Havnt used it.....used st Johns wort once, and was very sick...brought Migraines back.... so altho im open minded about stuff, im also worried about trying alternatives anymore.....so dont bother and just use my lovely toxic nasty meds....mind u im like Val normally, try stuff then c how it affects me... I use Teatree products for getting rid of Kids headlice once lol.....
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Date: 06.09.2009
From: val h :-)

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

at least wont have headlice then lol see silver cloud every where lol
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Date: 06.09.2009
From: jill

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

lol u crack me up u do lolol x
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Date: 06.09.2009
From: val h :-)

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

mind u put it on bum so should hope no headlice there lol
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Date: 06.09.2009
From: jill

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

lolol
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Date: 07.09.2009
From: Lynne

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

Rofl pmsl lol girls
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Date: 07.09.2009
From: jill

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

eeeek val has a Hairy Bummmmmmmmmm LOLOLOL
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Date: 07.09.2009
From: Lynne

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

Ohhh noooo horrible xxx
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Date: 07.09.2009
From: val h :-)

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

dont tell every one they will all want one nice and warm but bit messy lol
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Date: 07.09.2009
From: Lynne

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

Lol peeps
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Date: 07.09.2009
From: jill

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

Pmsl lol....... havnt tod u this b4 gals...... after my sam was born(gal) appprox 2half weeks after she was born, my rear end er bled.....a lot, infact, profusely, well i went st8 to GP...examined me...said OMGGGGGGg(lol) had to go st8 to hops in Kings in London, bk where I had her..... the specialist said to me....may I have a look...well u can imagine how i felt, still had a Huge tum, flabbby asss etc(prob hairy like Vals too LOLOLOLOL) anyway he said " as this is a teaching hosp, do u mind if a few students pop in and have a look( student doctors that is) I said no its ok...... LOLOL (not lying here) in marched 12/15 Student docs loooking at my Butt!!!!!......... lol...no funny......has to have Butt Op...had Shphincter Musckle Op....kept going into spasm after giving birth to my gal!!! worst op of my life......meant the skinb around the rectum died and bled.... nitemare..... very painful!! pmsllomal honest that is true....it was after that op, that my body began to fall apart the artha began....
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Date: 07.09.2009
From: val h :-)

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

u just made my bum hurt ouch ouch ouch. did not even know such a thing can happen trust u to have it so glad (i think) u shared that the pain must have been awfull
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Date: 07.09.2009
From: Lynne

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

Soz girl first of all next lol did they strap planks to there back so they didn't fall in lol
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Date: 07.09.2009
From: jill

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo pmslllmao lolol ya Owwwible Lynnne lol
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Date: 07.09.2009
From: Lynne

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

Hope so sweetie lol xxxxxxxxc
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Date: 07.09.2009
From: jill

Subject: Re: Have you had any reaction to teatree OA or RA

V al yes go gooogle it lol....its cledd Spchincter muscle...... I dont really want to go into detail wot that musckle is....but I will if u ask nicely...or better still Lynne can tell u lololol....it was all the pushing to get her out she was 8lb
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