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Date: 23.09.2011
From: liz

Subject: plz help me

hi some time back i had seen one post about excellent result of herbal medicines on RA. Can anyone shed some light if someone has used it and what is the cost of the treatment.

If i remember, some guy panter was advocating it. If you are still active in the forum, plz plz plz respond urgently. My partner is unable to bear the RA pain was thinking of ending life. He doesn't want to live a disabled life. he is suffering for the last 9 years and now seems everything out of control.
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Date: 24.09.2011
From: Dilizjo

Subject: Re: plz help me

Oh no!
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Date: 24.09.2011
From: davina

Subject: Re: plz help me

Hi liz just wondering if his seen a doctor regarding the pain your gp can help lots. can i ask what meds his been on and when his next appointment to rheumy cause you could try and get an emergency appointment. i do not think the herbal drugs will help but if he does use the herbal meds make sure they are ok to take will being on the rheumy meds.
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Date: 24.09.2011
From: liz

Subject: Re: plz help me

Thanks davina. he is on humira. but not working for him. had golimumab infusion some time back, but didn't worked. for last 1 year different kinda infections regularly. And as if it was not enough, psoriasis has begin appearing in the feet. The rheumy told that sometimes it happens. Now Mike (my partner) is totally shattered. Don't know what to do.
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Date: 24.09.2011
From: davina

Subject: Re: plz help me

i'm so sorry is a golimumab infusion steriods?
if not you could request a steroid infusion it may help, get to see your gp and ask them to contact your rheumy for emergency appointment and tell the his been having suicide thoughts. that will get you in quicker!!! i hope you get to see a rheumy fast the gp can't let you wall away without help!!!

good luck and take care of him
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Date: 24.09.2011
From: marlene

Subject: Re: plz help me

Oh Dear!!!! GP for discussion about depression would be good!!!!!
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Date: 25.09.2011
From: panther

Subject: Re: plz help me

Hello liz, I think you had written the post for me. I don't come too often on this forum now.


The herbal medicines we had taken was from Dr. Sangita from India. My cousin is still using it and now she is completely on herbal medicines only. Initially She was on Methotrexate when she started taking the herbal medicines. She took both the conventional and herbal medicines together and slowly as her condition improved, she is totally on herbal medicines only. Now her condition is good and doesn't complain about pain, inflammation or any other issues. Her blood test has also come normal and the RA factor is in the normal range. She has started going to the gym now, but has been advised not to do too much at the gym. We are also in contact with the GP so that if any side effects can be found and treated early. But till date only positive changes has been noticed.

Regarding the cost... It came to me at 60 USD or say 40 GBP for one month which included the consultation fee. It also included some medicines for mouth ulcers, digestive issues and some gynec problems.

She has been using it for the last 2 and half months and shown good progress. And the best thing i liked about them is that they never asked for any advance payment.

Hope this helps.

Trina, i have posted it just because 1 user asked for it. If you find it against the rules of the forum, you can delete the post.

Thanks
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Date: 25.09.2011
From: bsk

Subject: Re: plz help me

The only thing I would like to say is to bear in mind that people do go into remission so beware of comparing one person's condition with another.
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Date: 25.09.2011
From: Dilizjo

Subject: Re: plz help me

Hiya Liz,
I have researched Dr Sangita extensively as I am concerned about their claims....
The company is Natural Cure and the clinic based in Hyderabad in India... But the consultation apparently was held in USA as figure was quoted in dollars, either that or Panther's cousin went to india for her consultation.
Also I would like to mention that Dr Sangita and Panther have both posted on this forum before and there is a bit of indecision as to whether they are one and the same or 2 people working together, I am not saying that this is definitely the case and I may have jumped to the wrong conclusion on that matter.
On the herbal Care website they claim to have cures for absolutly every disease and ailment going, if this was true surely we would be well aware of it in this country.
I am not saying in any way that herbal suppliments cannot help relieve some conditions and different people react to treatments in different ways.
On the blood tests I didn't show any Rheumatoid factor at all but still have been diagnosed with seropositive Rheumatoid Arthritis, and don't show high ESR levels either even though my fingers are like a bunch of bananas etc.
I can fully empathise with the pain levels that are being felt by your partner and sincerely hope that with the right treatmeant they can be controlled and as bsk said there is always remission. RA presents itself in many different forms in different sufferers.
In all I am asking you to be carefull before entering into any treatment offered through the net unless verified by professionals that you can run thorough checks on and not just testimonials from supposed clients.
Take care xx
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Date: 25.09.2011
From: davina

Subject: Re: plz help me

hi again liz i totally agree with dilizjo.
please if you do decide to start anything herbal to talk to your gp because especially with methotrexate and anti-tnf's you have to be extra careful.
i so hope your partner gets well soon and gets out of this low point his at.
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Date: 26.09.2011
From: Dilizjo

Subject: Re: plz help me

Just need to make an amendment to my previous post Dr Sangita's company is called Natural Care not Natural Cure as I have put.
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Date: 26.09.2011
From: marlene

Subject: Re: plz help me

Panther may i ask how exactly did your cousin have the consultation. I can only find Dr. Sangita in India. Did your cousin go there or consult via the Internet? I am just curious as to how it works. I do not seem to find any contact information about this Dr?. This is why your kind of claims cannot be taken to seriously. I just think as this was dealt with a while back the thread should finish.
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Date: 26.09.2011
From: panther

Subject: Re: plz help me

Hello Dilizjo

Your concerns are totally valid. In fact we were much more apprehensive about using the herbal medicines and that too from such a distance. I think our experience may be of your help.

Basically i am a software engineer and working at Boston, USA in a big S/W company. My cousin too stay with us as we live in a joint family. We had not only tried Dr. Sangita's medicine but also some Acupuncture, Chinese plaster, Fish oil, Yoga, thai massage and a lot many things. But didn't got much results. When Dr. Sangita posted her message in this forum i silently started following her. And tried my best to bring her and start some discussion on herbal medicines in this forum itself. But i didn't got much support and i left that exercise.

Then i followed her on another site called WDDTY (What Doctors Don't tell you). There i found some fight between two bigwigs. One Heidi advocating bioptron and the 2nd one being Dr. Sangita of Herbal Medicines. And there she had openly challenged that she can show the difference in just 1 week time in any type of Arthritis. And for this one week the medicines were also free. I had also heard a lot about thousands of years old herbal medicine system ayurveda, etc. So i grabbed this opportunity and asked her to send medicines for my cousin.

And while waiting for the medicines, i asked her to provide some reference of people who had used her medicines. She happily provided me 2 - 3 reference from Boston itself. They were very much satisfied with the treatment. So all my doubts got cleared.

She send us the medicines by post at our Boston address and after using it for 1 week my cousin felt lots of difference in her pain and inflammation.

When we see the quick and good results, i immediately placed order for 3 months of medicines. But she politely refused and said that she has to monitor the progress and change the herbal composition according to the condition. And the best thing will be to send it on monthly basis only.

This is her third month of herbal medication and now her condition is much much better and she is completely on herbal medicines. And as bsk has said sometimes the patients go into remission. I pray to lord almighty, my cousin's RA goes into remission for life.

I am not saying you to blindly go and order the medicines. Do your own inquiry. Ask her to give some reference of people who have used her medicines. Talk to those people, If you wanna meet them go and see them personally. And then decide to go ahead or not.

Thanks for lending me your ears.
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Date: 26.09.2011
From: shiffy

Subject: Re: plz help me

i dont understand does dr sangita monitor and consult your condition from india? for e.g... if someone is the UK OR AUSTRALIA OR USA
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Date: 26.09.2011
From: mia

Subject: Re: plz help me

i have just been told i have ra and i am waiting to see a rhumy.i am really suffering pain in most joints,is it normal to feel slight electric shocks in fingers and toes/many thanks
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Date: 26.09.2011
From: marlene

Subject: Re: plz help me

From the dialouge Panther uses I am not sure if he/she is suppose to be American or not.Does it sound like a sales pitch, sure it does. I don't want to get into this as it has all been said before this is not the place to be selling anything. Shiffy it sounds like the answer to your question is yes. Far from me to be experienced in this kind of thing but to monitor you from a different country sounds wrong.Well i guess everyone has to make up their own minds. This is just my thoughts!!!!!!
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Date: 26.09.2011
From: bsk

Subject: Re: plz help me

Hi Panther, I hope your cousin has gone into remission but my point is that people can spontaneously go into remission, not necessarily from treatment (but also from treatment too.)

One of the things your cousin should be very aware of is that the disease can still be causing damage to her joints even when she is not displaying any symptoms or any any pain. This can happen when you go on an arthritis diet too. People think they are cured but, in fact, the disease progression is the same. It is vital that people reading about alternative treatments are aware of this fact. Once your joints are damaged there is nothing that can be done to reverse it, apart from joint replacement in some cases.
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Date: 26.09.2011
From: marlene

Subject: Re: plz help me

A very good point bsk. So glad you pointed this out.
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Date: 26.09.2011
From: Lee

Subject: Re: plz help me

It might be me but the initial post seems a "starter" post to continue the usual selling stuff on here and the same name Dr Sangita pops up.

He cant consult when he cant see the patient and there is no cure just alternative medicine that might help certain people but certainly isnt a wonder drug!

All herbal remedies should be consulted with a GP as you never know what will affect other drugs and treatments.

Could be a legit post but......
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Date: 27.09.2011
From: Dilizjo

Subject: Re: plz help me

First of all Panther I would like to thank you for your polite reply, as you will have read on this forum a couple of weeks ago we had a very aggresive 'salesperson' ( I do have other names for them but they are innappropriate for this forum) trying to sell their product and in all honesty was using the name Naturalcare in their email address, so you have to appreciate the sceptisism of the forum members.
bsk has pointed out a very good point... and in my opinion masking the pain fully is also leading to joint and organ damage that may be taking place to go unnoticed which is not a good thing.
Consultations should be on a face to face basis so that the joints etc can be physically manipulated to assess any damage...
Is your cousin still seeing a Rheumatologist? I hope so

Yep Mia it is normal, well for me it is I get the short sharp electric shock pain quite a lot.

kk that's me done now take care all xx
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Date: 27.09.2011
From: bsk

Subject: Re: plz help me

I'm inclined to agree with you Lee.
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Date: 27.09.2011
From: marlene

Subject: Re: plz help me

Panther doesn't have much to say either!!! Just as well!!!!
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Date: 29.09.2011
From: panther

Subject: Re: plz help me

Well... no point saying anything. If my cousin feels well, her blood reports are saying normal and the GP doesn't find any problem, then there is no point for me to be susceptible. If there would be any problem, i am sure her GP can find it out and refer her to the rheumy.

And regarding face to face consultation.... In which century you all are living???? Remote surgery was performed in 2001 itself... don't underestimate the power of technology.

And sorry friends i won't be able to contribute more on this topic. If you have any questions and concerns, you can google and ask the concerned person yourself. I may not be the best person to answer your queries.

Take care.
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Date: 29.09.2011
From: marlene

Subject: Re: plz help me

We are living in the same century as you. I don't know any Dr that would consult over the telephone or the Internet. Technology is fantastic. I say good for you not wanting to be involved in this Topic any more. I have no concerns what so ever or any questions, would I buy this product or consult with Dr Sangita(?) thats a great big NO. I would also suggest people always be aware of this kind of advertising or sales pitch, it is usually not what it claims to be!!!!!! Well take care everyone.
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Date: 29.09.2011
From: Dilizjo

Subject: Re: plz help me

Well said Marlene. I did not realize that software had been developed to such an extent that it can actually examine you physically and diagnose, what a wonderful revelation.... So now if I get a painful tight pain across my chest I don't need to phone an ambulance, all I have to do is log on to find out if I am having a heart attack or severe indigestion...... What a wonderful progressive age we live in....
OK sarcasm over with now as Marlene says folks please be very aware of any sales pitch that promises miracle cures. Research well and don't take testimonials written promoting what the cure has done for them on a cheap website as they are most probably the milkman, cleaner and anyone else that works for Dr Sangita.
take care all xx
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Date: 01.10.2011
From:

Subject: Re: plz help me

Dilizjo,你的意思是說她已送奶工,清潔工人,她的工作在全球各地的其他人,她是從印度管理??我不知道有多少他們的產品工作,但已經走得太遠,需要你的批評。

出於好奇,我也去她的網站,看到所有的圖片,測試報告和推薦。我不覺得它篡改。我不能就其用法,因為我們沒有任何與他們的產品經驗。但是可以肯定的,我可以告訴大家,你也沒有自己的產品的經驗。我們有很多問題的中藥材和他們有工作。所以你不能只是垃圾這一切。據我所知,大多數的慢性問題,傳統的藥物是沒有多大用處。你可以看到這裡的許多人的經驗。他們使用的是這麼長時間的常規藥物,但仍不能治愈。
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Date: 01.10.2011
From: marlene

Subject: Re: plz help me

Looks interesting
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Date: 01.10.2011
From: Dilizjo

Subject: Re: plz help me

Hehe I am going to translate,

Here is the translation:)

You mean to say she had the milkman, cleaners, her work with other people around the world, she is managed from India? ? I do not know how many of their products, but had gone too far, need your criticism.

Out of curiosity, I also go to her website to see all the pictures, test reports and recommendations. I do not think it is tampered with. I can not on its usage, because we do not have any experience with their products. But be sure, I can tell you that you do not have the experience of their products. We have many problems of Chinese herbal medicines and they are working. So you can not just trash it all. As far as I know, most of the chronic problems, traditional medicines are of little use. You can see here the experience of many people. They are so long using conventional drugs, but still not cured.

Oh dear I think I have hit a nerve.

Ok Li, If you read my post carefully you will see that it is not criticism it is saying do not believe everything you see written on the websites regarding their wonderfull products as they can be written by anyone, using the words milkman, cleaner etc were just examples. I could put a picture on a website of a 21 year old beauty with a perfect body etc and say it was me.... oh dear would definitely not like to see your face when you met me... I'm completely the opposite...
If you look at the post I posted on 25/09/2011 I said and I quote "I am not saying in any way that herbal suppliments cannot help relieve some conditions and different people react to treatments in different ways." I think this made it very clear that I am open minded to the idea of herbal medicine. What I do not condone is the way the marketing of these products is being carried out. It is clearly stated on this website that trying to sell products is inappropriate and should not be done. If people have found this forum they also have the tools to research such things as herbal medicine and any benefits they may have for their condition.
I notice from your posting it is possible for you to communicate in English as you have typed my name so in future it would be polite and respectful not to write your post in chinese as this is an english speaking forum.

I hope I have made myself clear on all the points you have made, and if you read all the posts there are people that have issues they wish suppot with.
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Date: 01.10.2011
From: marlene

Subject: Re: plz help me

Oh Dear, please Li, no one ever mentioned chinese medicine. Can i just say there are so many ailments that cannot be cured by conventional medicine or Herbal potions and Lotions. What we are trying to avoid on this chat forum is people paying costly sums for things that do nothing at all. Chinese remedies cannot be bought anywhere but from your shops, Dr Sangitas wonderful products i say this loosely can be found in supermarkets everywhere at a lot less cost. We do not need salesman on this forum its not what is for. If we needed supplements you can be rest assured our GP or Rhumy teams would advise us to do this.Thankyou for your input. The criticism belong with the pushy sales people.Have a nice day and Take Care
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Date: 01.10.2011
From: Quan

Subject: Re: plz help me

Some better translation for Lee's comment....

Dilizjo, do you mean to say she has milkman, cleaners and other people who work for her all over the globe and she is managing them from India??? I don't know how much their products work, but your criticism has gone too far then required.

Out of curiosity, me too went to her site and see all the pics, test reports and testimonials. I don't feel its doctored. I can't advise on its usage because we don't have any experience with their products. But for sure i can tell that you too don't have the experience of their products. We have used Chinese herbal medicines for many problems and they have worked. So you can't just rubbish it all. As far as i know, for most of the chronic problems, conventional medicines are not of much use. you can see it from the experience of many people here. They are using the conventional medicines for such long time and still not being cured.
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Date: 01.10.2011
From: davina

Subject: Re: plz help me

hello le i understand that Chinese herbal medicines ay work but we are looking at in particular dr.sangitas products that seem to be great and a cure is proberly not!!! as i have said before she and others that want to sell their products say they can cure the pain but what about the damage it does to the body.

yes some of the conventional medications don't work for some people but we look for another and another but if you asked us to try without the big expense it will cause us we may try it but we don't like the attitude and the wonderful statements from people whom still can tell us all the details e.g panther.

we would rather not have this information thank you!!!! let us be in this pain it has nothing to do with anyone but us!!!
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Date: 01.10.2011
From: Shiffy

Subject: Re: plz help me

Hi everyone

I been reading these posts and i think if someone is genuinely trying to help someone with conditions like ours, we should welcome them as long as the products or services do not seem dodgy or not tried or tested. No one can force someone to use the product if you dont want to.

Its a suggestion and alternative to who ever feels its right for them.

No need for harsh criticisms from anyone really.

Peace to all and take care people!
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Date: 01.10.2011
From: bsk

Subject: Re: plz help me

But the question is, Shiffy, are they 'genuinely try to help someone?' Or are they flogging products, which is banned on here?

I do feel this forum is a place where people should be able to express a different point of view and, quite rightly, point out, or criticize (if you like), what they feel are misleading, inaccurate, or disingenuous posts or sources of info.

Personally, I feel I have a responsibility to other forum users to point any of the above that I think could possibly be harmful and give my perspective on it and anyone can disagree. So please don't tell me not to, whether the items are 'dodgy or tried and tested' or not. 'Genuine' people don't force their treatment plan on other posters here. We all have respect for the paths that others have chosen. This is not the place for people to drip feed their alternative treatments/products or ideas with a view to getting sales of products.
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Date: 01.10.2011
From: Shiffy

Subject: Re: plz help me

Hi bsk,

Thanks for your comments, I appreciate this forum is for fellow arthritis sufferers to express their feelings on their highs and lows and what experience people are getting with their current conventional treatments.

But I do not think there's anything wrong with someone advising someone or suggesting something outside the conventional treatment for instance like Fish oil, there has been numerous reports to show it helps with fighting arthrtic inflammation and also prevent certain enzymes thats destroy joint tissue, even Rose hip extract helps very well with Osteo Arthritis.

I dont think this is selling a product but sharing a product with someone who may have some benefit.

And this forum should allow this as its only trying to help each other.
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Date: 01.10.2011
From: marlene

Subject: Re: plz help me

I have researched this product, you can buy the same things cheaper in a health shop, so in my opinion nothing special about it. Also Finitro Forte Plus when i researched this product the company are being taken to task by the Standard Advertising Agency for false claims. So am i naturally suspicious of people trying to sell product on this forum, you bet I am.I am with BSK the forum founder clearly states no selling on this forum, it is for us arthur suffers to chat with one another. I think it would be better for this thread to be closed as panther and Dr sangita were deleted from this site earlier in the year.
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Date: 01.10.2011
From: Shiffy

Subject: Re: plz help me

I forget to mention and I do agree with you bsk that GENUINE PEOPLE with alternative suggestions should not force their treatment plans on others.
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Date: 01.10.2011
From: bsk

Subject: Re: plz help me

Shiffy, pls note I said that it isn't the place for people to tout their products. Sharing info is another thing altogether. Fish oil isn't a named product, though if someone said you should buy 'such and such a fish oil' it would equivalent of advertising, which isn't allowed.

I do have to say that if someone recommended a dangerous practice or product I would shout about it to the others.
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Date: 02.10.2011
From: Dilizjo

Subject: Re: plz help me

To be honest folks the same issue keeps coming up and I am in full agreement with Marlene this thread should be closed, as it is going nowhere.
It seems that I have critcised the product that is being touted but after reading through my posts I have stated valid points and given people the chance of open choice, not told them not to buy it, my posts have been made after a lot of research and on that research and a couple of posts from other forum users who have tried it, I personally have made the choice not to buy into this product and the "salespeople" really should make note of these threads and realise that alot of posters are not happy with their repeated sales drives. They should instead pay for advertising their product if it is as good as they say it is.
You are right Shiffy if people have found they have benefited from a certain kind of treatment be it natural, physical or pharma then yes this is just the place to do it, then others can try it if they so choose but to give false hope by selling it is cruel.
take care all xx
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Date: 02.10.2011
From: mills

Subject: Re: plz help me

What is the product name? I was going through the posts and didn't found any name?

Most of the conventional medicines are made by extracting some molecules of some plants. So calling herbal medicines as lotion potion is just bringing disgrace to Nature. Nature is much powerful then mankind.
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Date: 02.10.2011
From: bsk

Subject: Re: plz help me

I don't agree this thread should be shut down. There is obviously still a debate to be had about conventional and alternative meds. I don't have a problem with any of these posts as they are not abusive or aggressive. It actually seems by having this discussion online the people who are not genuine inevitably leave the conversation!
Sorry to disagree Marlene and Dil :)
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Date: 02.10.2011
From: marlene

Subject: Re: plz help me

BSK I like you love the debates on here thats why i take time to look at the products on the www. I think enough said about Dr. Sangita.
This is for poster Mills
Lotion:- Various Liquid Preparation To Be Applied To Skin
Potion:- A Medicinal Magical Or Poisonuis Beverage
Bringing Disgrace to Nature not sure exactly what you mean. Yes fully aware nature is stronger than man always has been always will be.
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Date: 02.10.2011
From: Dilizjo

Subject: Re: plz help me

Hiya Mills the product is developed by Dr Sangita and if you read the 9th and 11th post on here I clearly explain the name of the company Natural Care. Please do not think that we are not in favour of natural remedies we are open to any ideas that may relieve our issues and yes nature is a powerful entity and we as humans are part of that entity. It is not the Nature part of this discussion that is in dispute, in any way.
It is the way these threads are started and responded to by the same people... they always come back to the same names....
Hi BSK Please never apologise for disagreeing, it is always healthy to know and respect others opinions and I, like Marlene enjoy a good debate and am going to start a new thread to debate the natural remedy issues, but this one is not the one to do it in.
take care all xx
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Date: 02.10.2011
From: Shiffy

Subject: Re: plz help me

Hi bsk, Dilizjo...

Bsk on your last post to my post you said ('if someone recommended a dangerous practice or product I would shout about it to the others')and I definitely agree with you on that. we do not need dangerous products for our condition as it is bad enough.

I like to put my input as I am a arthritis sufferer about alternative meds and conventionals.

see you guys on the other thread.
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Date: 02.10.2011
From: bsk

Subject: Re: plz help me

Hi shiffy, I think most of us are basically on the same page. I am interested in more alternative stuff for myself. My meds are great but I like to have some input myself too!
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Date: 05.10.2011
From: mia

Subject: re first rhemy appt

i have my first rheumy appt next wk.i just wanted to know what happens on your first visit.a bit worried.

many thanks mia
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Date: 05.10.2011
From: Dilizjo

Subject: Re: plz help me

Hiya Mia, don't worry the visit should be nice and easy, they will ask you questions and examine the affected areas, then make appts for xrays, scans etc, they will take bloods and that should really be it:)

Take care and don't worry too much xx
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Date: 05.10.2011
From: mia

Subject: re first rhemy appt

thankyou feel a bit better now i know what will happen.do you have to wait long 4 the results.my gp said it looks like ra with my blood results and symptoms.this is the oddest thing i have ever felt.everything hurt me for 4 wks and as now settled down.thank god.
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Date: 05.10.2011
From: Dilizjo

Subject: Re: plz help me

Glad to hear things have settled down, I waited about 3 weeks for my final diagnosis after my initial appt.:)
I think the the xray and scan reports that take the time up.
Bloods are normally in within 24 hours.
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Date: 05.10.2011
From: mia

Subject: Re: plz help me

thanks dilizjo. will let you know how i get on.thanks 4 your help.am new to all this.xx
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Date: 13.10.2011
From: mia

Subject: Re: plz help me

hi went for my first visit to rhemy today he said he dosnt think it is ra but arthralgia an gave me blood tests and xrays of my hands and feet.he as given me amatriptoline as anyone had these for joint pain.my gp said it was ra.i now am tottaly confused,any advise would be great.
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Date: 14.10.2011
From: Dilizjo

Subject: Re: plz help me

Hi Mia glad to hear you have been seen at last, my advice is to wait till the bloods come back they will have tested for everything. I haven't had amatriptoline but I am sure there are people on here that have. Try and keep a level head the one good thing is that you are nearer to a definite diagnosis:)
Take care xx
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Date: 14.10.2011
From: lynnr

Subject: Re: plz help me

Hi mia I take amytriptyline at night its a muscle relaxant so should help u relax wot strength did he give up hope u get a diagnosis soon nothing worse not knowing. X tc
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Date: 14.10.2011
From: mia

Subject: thanks

thanks for the reply,s i will be glad to finally find out whats wrong.lynn i have been given 10mg for now. had best sleep in ages.xx
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Date: 14.10.2011
From: lynnr

Subject: Re: plz help me

thats great glad u got a better sleep i was like that when i started i also had 10 mg then went up to 25mg then dr wanted me to double it to 50 but i decided to stick with 35mg but it does def help sleep tcx
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Date: 14.10.2011
From: marlene

Subject: Re: plz help me

Hi Mia, glad you got a good night sleep. X
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Date: 15.10.2011
From: mia

Subject: Re: 1st visit

hi all went to see rhuemy 4 fist time.was anyone else made to feel like acomplete hypacondriac.cant wait 4 my results .xx had another good sleep.yay.x
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Date: 15.10.2011
From: marlene

Subject: Re: plz help me

Yep making you feel like a hypo it seems is normal. Once you have all the results back and your diagnoses things will change, they will get your meds sorted and any physio you might need. It does get to you a bit, you feel like polly parrot repeatiing over and over to this one and that one, watching the way they look at you, as you say like you are a hypo.LOL But seriously, i'm glad to read you are getting a good nights sleep. Hope it stays this way for you. Take Care.
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Date: 15.10.2011
From: mia

Subject: Re: plz help me

arr thanks marlene he made me feel like i was making it up.i must admit i was saying my hands feet,knees,elbows,shoulders and neck are hurting.he also asked me why i wasnt getting any sleep.uuurrrrrrrr.felt like screaming.ha xx
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Date: 15.10.2011
From: marlene

Subject: Re: plz help me

They do make you laugh, tell them all the pain you have and they come back with why can't you sleep. Now let me see "could that be the pain"? 10 out of 10 that one!!!! If it wasn't so serious for us we could laugh, but when we are all worn out with the pain and lack of sleep its hard to smile leave alone laugh. When I first went to the rhumy guy he made me feel so bad I told my GP i don't think he likes me or he just dosen't believe me. Thank God for a good GP he replied or doesn't know what he is doing and got me an appoinment with a new rhumy guy and my problems were sorted. It did take a long time but we do all get thre in the end, so hold on to that thought. The light is at the end of the tunnel. Take Care X
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Date: 16.10.2011
From: Michael

Subject: Re: plz help me

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ganoderma/157964614290370
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Date: 16.10.2011
From: Michael

Subject: Re: plz help me

You can try this product, I have customer's who are pain free now with just using the coffee, green tea or hot chocolate. The supplements are also great and it works faster with beverages.
To shop visit http://yourdestiny.organogold.com/US/r_default.asp
or email me at alergyremedy@yahoo.com
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Date: 16.10.2011
From: Dilizjo

Subject: Re: plz help me

Michael could you please read the top of the message board index page it clearly states:
Please remember that this is a space for people with arthritis to make contact with other people in the same situation. It is not a place to sell stuff or to promote any particular product or service. We will remove messages that we feel are not appropriate for this message board.
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Date: 16.10.2011
From: marlene

Subject: Re: plz help me

Couldn't find the web page for your products michael.
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Date: 16.10.2011
From: Dilizjo

Subject: Re: plz help me

I got the website by highlighting the address and right clicking it then clicking open to link.
Very nice looking website, but it is not only selling products but promoting selling it's products yourself as a business, basically I would say it's like pyramid selling. Also seem to only trade in USA and Canada.
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Date: 16.10.2011
From: bsk

Subject: Re: plz help me

I had a look. Would you take something called 'spore powder'? Not me!
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Date: 16.10.2011
From: marlene

Subject: Re: plz help me

No I don't think I would. I wouldn't be up for selling it either. Why are they advertising on here? Let me think now, are they looking for people to sell over here? Yes I think so. Here we go again, what part of no selling on the forum do they not understand? Well take care everyone.
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Date: 19.10.2011
From: mia

Subject: Re: waiting

h last week i all when i went for the 1st visis to rhemy.i rang hospital today 2 see if any of my results are back.they said i will have to wait till my next appt in january.wot a joke.is normal to be waiting this long for results.xx
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Date: 19.10.2011
From: bsk

Subject: Re: plz help me

Not sure why this is on here but no, it is not normal to wait that long. They should write to your GP in the meantime. Maybe make an appointment to see them?
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Date: 19.10.2011
From: mia

Subject: Re: plz help me

oh ok thanks.have i wrote on the wrong place.soz
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Date: 19.10.2011
From: marlene

Subject: Re: Mia starting your own new thread

Hi Mia, don't worry if you go to top of page and click on new topic it will start a new thread for you. This will help with any questions you may want to ask. Hope this helps and take care.
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Date: 19.10.2011
From: mia

Subject: Re: plz help me

thanks marlene.x
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Date: 20.10.2011
From: bsk

Subject: Re: plz help me

sorry, didn't mean to be abrupt but you might get more replies if you start a new thread!
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